Thursday, December 1, 2011

Should Churches be Alowed to Meet in Public Schools?


The Christian Post > U.S.|Tue, Nov. 01 2011 06:43 PM EDT

Ore. Pastors Speak Out About Churches Meeting in Public Schools

By Jeff Schapiro | Christian Post Reporter

Many churches, especially start-ups, rent public school facilities on weekends in order to house their worship services. While opponents to these arrangements say that religious organizations have no business holding services in a government institution, the pastors of these churches say their presence is in the best interest of the community.
Willy Burns, pastor of Southside Community Church in Newberg, Ore., said his congregation met in a public elementary school for three years, and during that time they had a few “scares” from school board members who complained about the church's presence but had a good experience overall.
“To say that churches that are renting the facilities are being supported by the schools is nonsensical,” Burns said in an email to The Christian Post. “If any group wants to come in and rent the facility they may, and I think that is a real win for the school district, especially given the harsh economic times we live in where schools are being hit hard and teachers are being cut.
Meanwhile, Michael Gaffney, pastor of Ascent Christian Church in Prineville, Ore., said his congregation meets in a local high school auditorium because the cost of rent is a good alternative to being “handcuffed” to a mortgage payment. Renting from the school allows his church to reserve more of its money for ministry, he said, and all of the rent money goes toward the high school's auditorium and theater program.
Gaffney doesn't want the church to have a mortgage, because, "like it does in a marriage, it becomes a stressor on the church, and then sooner or later, usually sooner, the church finds itself in a position where it has come to serve the building rather than the building serving the church.”
Eight out of 10 of Oregon’s largest school districts are currently renting their facilities to religious groups, but not everyone is happy about it, according to The Associated Press.
In September, Gladstone, Ore. resident Wilford Bearden became upset after he received a flyer inviting him to a church service at a nearby middle school. He later contacted the school district's officials to complain.
"I don't think it's something that schools should be doing," said Bearden to AP. "I think the general public would probably be appalled as I am that my tax dollars are promoting religion."
The Freedom From Religion Foundation (FFRF), a group of non-theists out of Madison, Wis. that fight for church-state separation, says it is unfortunate that the U.S. Supreme Court has rendered decisions that continue to allow churches to meet in schools.
“Start-up churches often take advantage of low school rental to establish themselves,” says an article on FFRF's website. “They obtain a prominent site for a new church, collect church donations on public property, and use their savings to eventually buy their own tax-free buildings. No wonder many taxpayers are concerned!”
But Steve Crampton, general counsel and vice president of legal affairs for Liberty Counsel, told The Christian Post Monday, “It is a sad commentary on the state of our nation and our so-called 'tolerant' society, that when churches seek to exercise the same rights as any other community group to use the facilities at our public schools – on the same basis, same terms as other groups – they are singled out for this kind of hostile treatment.”
The Liberty Counsel, founded in 1989, is a non-profit legal group dedicated to promoting religious freedom and defending religious rights. Crampton said, under a pure interpretation of the law, churches in American shouldn't fear being excluded from public schools, but said they should be concerned about a growing hostility toward Christians in our society.
“It's as if we've gone from sort of a privileged status, as the First Amendment religion clauses make clear, to really being almost second-class citizens because we belong to a Christian church today,” he said.
He also said he is afraid that some school districts might close off access to their facilities for all community groups, in order to avoid lawsuits from both churches and organizations like the FFRF. When that happens, he said, “the whole community suffers.”
"Groups like ours exist to, on the one hand, protect the churches free of charge, but on the other to render defenses to school districts, free of charge, when they're sued by the left on these baseless grounds,” said Crampton.
Patrick Bowler, lead pastor of Valley Life Church in Lebanon, Ore., told CP via email that, despite what others argue, his church is not an opponent of the state. His congregation has volunteered to help the local school district with tasks like landscaping, trash removal and providing food to hungry children in the district.
He said his church, which has met in Lebanon High School for the last five years, has given the district tens of thousands of dollars in rent and doesn't expect to receive any preferential treatment.
“As believers in a God who humbled Himself and set aside His glory to live among us and to die for us to close the gap between himself, a holy God, and ourselves, a broken people, how could we posture ourselves as entitled to anything?” he asked.
“Jesus would have us love the city, and that is increasingly what we want to do.”

Friday, October 7, 2011

Hell is HOT!! Tartaros... It's not just on your teeth!

2 Peter 2 But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. 2 And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed. 3 By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does[a] not slumber. Doom of False Teachers 4 For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment; 5 and did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah, one of eight people, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood on the world of the ungodly; 6 and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them to destruction, making them an example to those who afterward would live ungodly; 7 and delivered righteous Lot, who was oppressed by the filthy conduct of the wicked 8 (for that righteous man, dwelling among them, tormented his righteous soul from day to day by seeing and hearing their lawless deeds)— 9 then the Lord knows how to deliver the godly out of temptations and to reserve the unjust under punishment for the day of judgment, 10 and especially those who walk according to the flesh in the lust of uncleanness and despise authority. They are presumptuous, self-willed. They are not afraid to speak evil of dignitaries, 11 whereas angels, who are greater in power and might, do not bring a reviling accusation against them before the Lord.

In studying hell we will take one stop off for 2 Peter 2:4. Peter makes mention of hell in this verse and it is the only time it is used in the N.T.

The word is from the Greek: ταρταρόω tartaroō tar-tar-o'-o From Τάρταρος Tartaros̄ (the deepest abyss of Hades); to incarcerate in eternal torment: - cast down to hell. 2Pe 2:4

5020 tartaróō – properly, send to Tartarus ("Tartaros"). The NT uses 5020 (tartaróō) for the netherworld – the place of punishment fit only for demons. Later, Tartaros came to represent eternal punishment for wicked people.

(tartaróō) is a Greek name for the under-world, especially the abode of the damned – hence to cast into hell" to send into the subterranean abyss reserved for demons and the dead. In Greek mythology, Tartarus was a "place of punishment under the earth, to which, for example, the Titans were sent"

Adam Clarke reasoned that Peter's use of language relating to the Titans was an indication that the ancient Greeks had heard of a Biblical punishment of fallen angels. As such, the terminology would have made sense to the early readers of the N.T.

The Holy Spirit through Peter wanted us to understand that the punishment would fit the crime. The bottom line here is that first, God takes our sins in context and will judge accordingly. Second, there is a more severe punishment for those who lead others astray. Bottom line, God hates sin, no doubt about it, but he hates it even more when he sees one person mess another person up, that is why this lower part of hell is reserved for Satan and his demons.

Saturday, September 10, 2011

What in the Hell? Part 2


Several years ago I worked for a man in Washington state, he was a good guy and had all the best intentions in the world... he was a Christian and was not afraid to share his faith. At work there was a 20 something coworker who was not a believer. One day I came into work and found my boss trying to convince my coworker that a group of scientists had actually drilled a hole into the center of the earth, lowered a microphone and recorded the screams of those below suffering in hell... I wanted to curl up in a little ball in the corner and pretend this had been a bad dream, I was embarrassed. I remember going home that day and looking up this claim on www.snopes.com found that it was a scam that a guy had actually used to swindled a local church out of several thousand dollars to get more money to "keep drilling", and "keep the research going". I printed out the papers and took them into work the next day and ever so humbly shared what I had learned. My ex-boss looked at me like I had just slapped his mamma... It wasn't long after that that he fired me.

This experience brought up a really good question though... where IS hell?
for this blog I want to focus on one of the words that I mentioned in my last post, Gehenna (ghe-hen-nah).

Gehenna is the Hebrew gê-hinnom(Nehemiah 11:30), or the longer form gê-ben-hinnom(Joshua 15:8), and gê-benê-hinnom(2 Kings 23:10) "valley of the sons of Hinnom". Hinnom seems to be the name of some lucky mystery guy.

Whoever this guy was, he had a valley that was SO bad they use the name synonymously with hell.

This Valley of Hinnom is south of Jerusalem and is now called Wadi er-rababi. It was notorious as the scene, in earlier days, of the horrible worship of Molech. For this reason it was defiled by Josias (2Kings 23:10), cursed by Jeremias (Jeremiah7:31-33), and held in abomination by the Jews.

The reason why the history is important is because Jesus made it important. Jesus was a master story teller and he used every day object lessons to drive home spiritual concepts. In the N.T. Jesus refers to "hell" just under a dozen times.

In the King James Versionof the Bible, the term appears 13 times in 11 different verses as "valley of Hinnom," "valley of the son of Hinnom" or "valley of the children of Hinnom."
The traditional description of the valley is that it may have been the town dump and had fires burning all the time to consume the trash and even cadavers that were thrown into it.

There is evidence as shown in the picture that it was a graveyard and had tombs... bottom line, really creepy valley.

When speaking of hell, Jesus uses the term Gehenna 11 times to describe hell. It would have been a powerful word picture in the mind of the Jewish listeners and also helped them understand that hell is a real deal.

Soooo, am I saying that THAT is where hell is located? No. But, I think it does illustrate for us that fact that hell is not only a spiritual realm, but it can in fact be here with us now, right here, right now.

A few years ago I took a group of teenagers on a mission trip to Matamoros, Mexico where we built small homes for people who lived IN the dump.
Not by the dump or near the dump, IN the dump.

These people lived in and by the dump, the dump provided everything they needed, it was their mother... it was disgusting.

I will NEVER forget the smell of that dump, the children playing in bare feet, the maggots, the families digging through the trash to get food and things they could recycle or sell for money.

I will NEVER forget the garbage truck pulling up and dropping a load in the "front yard" of one family so that they could pick through the trash.

I will never forget the rabid dogs with mange wandering around with gnashing teeth. I will never forget the fires that would randomly start and burn day and night there from all the decomposing trash... it... was... hell.

We have all seen different pictures of hell, stories that we could tell that would fill up this blog.

Jesus point was simple, hell is a very bad place and we should do all that we can to make sure we are living in the kingdom of heaven now, that we are bringing the kingdom of light here and that we are pointing the way to His kind of living not only in THIS age but in the AGE TO COME!
Pastor Willy

Wednesday, September 7, 2011

Hell is HOT!! Introduction

Well, here we have it. I have finally decided that I would bite the bullet and write about hell. Not exactly the funnest subject, clearly an odd one for me to tackle. As odd as it may seem, the thought of hell has been in my mind as of late. We all know and have heard our whole lives about this place of misery... what is it, where is it, who goes there, for how long? These are just some of the questions we have all pondered and over the next few blog posts I will share with you my study, my reflection and some of my conclusions about this murky, mystery. My hope is that by studying hell, we will solve some of the puzzles and misunderstandings about this place. So with no further adieu, we will begin our study. 


The first thing that I would like to consider is the fact that the word "hell" is not really found in the bible, there are actually a few different words in the O.T. and N.T. that we have translated to the word hell. I have added a scripture reference for each so that you get the idea. The first step to understanding the scriptures on the subject of hell is understanding what the scriptures are referring to when we read the word hell. I would also suggest doing a word study on Hell to prepare for upcoming teachings, a great resource for studying the scripture can be found here: e-sword.net. My hope is that you will all feel free to post what you are thinking and learning so that we can discuss together what we find out!


Pastor Willy
www.southsidenewberg.org 


ταρταρόω
tartaroō tar-tar-o'-o From Τάρταρος Tartaros̄ (the deepest abyss of Hades); to incarcerate in eternal torment: - cast down to hell.
2Pe 2:4
5020 tartaróō – properly, send to Tartarus ("Tartaros"). The NT uses 5020 (tartaróō) for the netherworld – the place of punishment fit only for demons. Later, Tartaros came to represent eternal punishment for wicked people.
"5020 (tartaróō) is a Greek name for the under-world, especially the abode of the damned – hence to cast into hell" (A-S); to send into the subterranean abyss reserved for demons and the dead.
[In Greek mythology, Tartarus was a "place of punishment under the earth, to which, for example, the Titans were sent" (Souter).]


Γέεννα
 geenna
gheh'-en-nah Of Hebrew origin ([H1516] and [H2011]); valley of (the son of) Hinnom; gehenna (or Ge-Hinnom), a valley of Jerusalem, used (figuratively) as a name for the place (or state) of everlasting punishment: hell.
 Matt. 5:22




ᾅδης
hadēs
hah'-dace From G1 (as a negative particle) and G1492; properly unseen, that is, “Hades” or the place (state) of departed souls: - grave, hell.
Rev 20:13


שׁאל שׁאול
sh e 'ôl
sheh-ole', sheh-ole' From H7592; hades or the world of the dead (as if a subterranean retreat), including its accessories and inmates: - grave, hell, pit. 
Psa 16:10

Tuesday, September 6, 2011

Dave Ramsey - Financial Peace


The Great Recovery is a grassroots movement spread by people who are tired of looking to Washington for answers. The truth is that the government can’t fix this economy. It’ll be restored one family at a time, as each of us takes a stand to return to God and grandma’s way of handling money.

Together, we’ll bring this country back on track—one family, one church, one community at a time.

As part of The Great Recovery movement, this fall Southside will be hosting two Financial Peace University classes. We want everyone to be involved, so don’t delay and sign your family up today.
 

Sign up HERE.
If you would like to be a part of this movement and join one of the Financial Peace University classes happening this fall at Southside, then simply fill out the information for the class you’d like to join and the leader for that group will contact you with more information.
If you have any questions, feel free to contact Evelyn Barnes by EMAIL.

Class # 1

Saturday Mornings – 9:30 to 11:30 (breakfast at 9am)
Barnes Upper Room – 429 S Main St
Preview Session on Sept. 10, 2011 – First Class Session on Sept. 17


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